The Sisters-in Crime
Interrogate D.L.
(This
interview was conducted during the month of May 2001
for SinC-IC by Pat Browning. Reprinted with permission.)
Now you see her, now you don't ... the mysterious lady known as DL Browne ... and Diana Killian ... and Diane Browne ... who is this masked ... er ... ma'am?
"Let's
call me Fred," she says. "That's bound to drum up interest."
Seriously: "DL is what I use professionally. It separates
the writer from the musician (to the relief of my family)."
Drumroll ... the writer Diana Killian recently published The Art of Dying through Xlibris.
Drumroll ... the musician, Diane Browne, performs with her two sisters and a cousin at Scottish Highland Games and Irish Festivals throughout the Western United States. Appearing as The Browne Sisters and George Cavanaugh, their repertoire includes everything from contemporary Scottish songs to Gaelic waulking songs.
Meanwhile, back on the Internet, DL Browne is the mastermind and leader of the Wicked Company discussion list and community. She's rounded up more than 300 members, and is co-editing a members' short story anthology to be ready for sale at Bouchercon. And
all that's in her spare time. She hasn't given up her day job.
So, who is the mysterious lady with the many names?
SIC: Will you give us a little personal background?
DL :
Argh! This is the part I'm terrible at. I graduated from
Pepperdine, Malibu (California) with a double-major in English
and Humanities. I'm happily single again following the end of
a long and exhausting relationship. No kids, but I'm a devoted
aunt to four knee-high hoodlums. I love dogs and I usually have
a couple, but apartment living makes that impossible for the
moment.
SIC: You
hold down a fulltime job. What kind of job is it? What other
jobs have you held that you're willing to talk about -- tinker,
tailor, soldier, spy?
DL
: I'm the Operations Manager at the Los Angeles branch
of an international security company. That sounds even less interesting
than it is, which is saying something! I also spent about five
years in the exciting and challenging role of substitute teacher
in high school. Barely escaping with my life, I was happy to
retire to the private sector with a permanent twitch in my left
eye.
SIC: Tell us about your music, how you started, how often you
perform. Did you sing around the house while growing up? Do you
sing for love or money?
DL
: The Browne Sisters and George Cavanaugh have been
performing professionally for about 12 years now. It sounds corny,
but yes, we did sing together growing up.
When our family went on trips our whole
family would sing in the car. My dad taught us all these great
Bing Crosby songs; then he discovered the Beatles and we learned
all those. Cowboy songs, Peter, Paul and Mary, sea chanteys.
Finally, realizing they had created a monster,
my parents locked us up in the back of a camper for long drives
-- and that's when my sisters, Pam and Laurie, started figuring
out elaborate harmonies to everything. It's definitely genetics.
The singing gene runs in our family.
Love or money? Well, we perform for money.
Singing is different. I'll be driving somewhere with one of my
sisters and a song will come on the radio and suddenly we're
singing, taking parts, harmonizing -- totally focused. It's almost
like a drug. When we get together, we sing. That's how we are.
There have been some memorable times, but
it's all kind of a blur. We always have fun. That's what people
always say: "You look like you're having so much fun up
there." Playing together is like a little party. George,
Pam, and Laurie are the funniest people I know, so we're always
laughing -- except when we're trying to kill each other over
creative differences.
SIC: How
long have you been writing? How did you begin?
DL
: I always wrote little stories, and all my teachers
kept encouraging me (I always had great teachers), so when I
hit high school I started trying to sell novels. I didn't actually
score until I graduated from college. I finally sold a Harlequin
romance, Love's Good Fortune.
SIC: You have gone the traditional publishing route, but your most recent novel, The Art of Dying, is self-published through Xlibris. Did you have particular reasons for that? Was the process everything you expected? What were the best and worst aspects of it?
DL
: I didn't really try to market The Art of Dying, and I should have. I knew I wanted to try out the "new" self-publishing, and I thought it was fairly strong,
though "niche." I thought it would be a good test run.
And it was, but I learned something about
myself: I hate promotion; and marketing a self-published novel
takes even more effort and determination than marketing a traditionally
published novel, because so many doors are closed through bias
or ignorance.
As far as self-publishing? It was the best
of times and the worst of times. Both firms delivered exactly
what they promised, which is simply a product. Most new writers
are not equipped to deal with that kind of responsibility; they
need the guidance and expertise of an editor. Plus, many of them
know little or nothing about the industry.
For me, it was an interesting experiment,
and there are circumstances under which I might try it again
(should my own publishing contract be cancelled, it would be
one way of keeping my series alive if it took a long time to
nail another publisher). This time I would be prepared for the
wait (which, while longer than promised, is still much shorter
than is usual in traditional publishing) and for the lousy customer
service. Knowing what to expect makes all the difference.
I didn't go into self-publishing with high
expectations. I was curious more than anything. I don't believe
it is a satisfactory substitute for a traditional publishing
contract, but those are becoming more and more scarce.
The positive side of self-publishing is
the heady sense of freedom that comes with total creative control.
It's a delight -- and a danger. It takes a lot of self-discipline
to force yourself to do rewrite after rewrite when you know you
can publish as is.
The other very cool thing about the new
technology is that if you feel really strongly about a novel,
but can't get publisher support, you do have the option of putting
your money where your mouth is, and publishing it yourself.
It's a brave new world out there! It scares
a lot of writers. Maybe it should.
SIC: Given
your various careers and projects, this question may cause you
to laugh hysterically, but what's your favorite way to relax,
assuming you ever find time?
DL
: Reading, naturally. I collect old mysteries -- and
I collect them to read them, not just for the pleasure of owning
them. And I enjoy terrorizing the plants in my garden (I'm a
horrible but enthusiastic gardener). I also love renting movies
-- especially old movies and especially old mystery movies. In
fact, my preferred writing background music is old movies. I
belong to the Home Film Festival, so every couple of weeks I
get some oddball foreign films or something really archaic in
the mail.
SIC: What
do you read for pleasure? What did you read as you were growing
up, and how did your reading tastes change or develop?
DL
: I review for "I Love A Mystery," so I
actually get to stay current with ... er ... publishing trends,
but for sheer pleasure I'm a nut for the mysteries of the 1930s
and '40s. Mignon G. Eberhart, Leslie Ford, the Little Sisters
... I love that stuff! I read a lot of romantic-suspense growing
up. But I also read and loved cowboy novels: Max Brand, Zane
Grey, Louis L'amour -- and then a ton of Georgette Heyer.
I'd like to say that I had a well-rounded
reading background, but now that I think of it, it was almost
totally in popular fiction. I don't know if my taste has changed
a lot. Romance bores the heck out of me -- which is why I may
not make a very good romantic-suspense writer! I've gotten to
like more hard-boiled stuff -- I don't require happy endings
anymore, although I prefer them!
SIC: What kind of promotions do you plan for your new book?
DL
: This is a real battle for me. It's one thing to
sing in public -- it's almost impersonal, if that makes sense?
-- plus the focus isn't solely on me. But to show up some place
and hawk my book is really really hard for me. I know I'm not
unique in this; most writers would rather write than promote.
I'm going to Bouchercon this year -- for me that's a big step.
And I've made the resolution to start doing signings with the
next book.
SIC: Do
you have a work in progress? If so, can you tell us anything
about it?
DL
: I love this project. It's romantic-suspense but
the kind of romantic-suspense I like -- a mix of lots of adventure
and humor. At least, I hope it's humorous! It's titled Dangerous
to Know and it's about an American professor who stumbles
across a body on her vacation in the Lake District. Before she
knows it, she's involved in the search for a lost manuscript
of the wicked Lord Byron. It's nearly complete. Now I have to
try and sell the darn thing.
SIC: Tell us about Wicked Company, the mystery community you founded. What piqued your interest in doing that? What have been the surprises, pleasant or otherwise, in your first year of leading that very lively community?
DL
: What's that quote from "The Lady From Shanghai":
"You know nothing about wickedness." If I had known
then what I know now ... actually it's been great fun. The community
started out for iUniverse mystery writers but from the point
that we started a discussion list on Yahoo, it bloomed into something
much larger, and more entertaining. Now we have a colorful assortment
of writers, reviewers, editors, and the always appreciated readers.
The writers come in all sizes and flavors too: aspiring, self-published
and traditionally published.
Unpleasant surprises? Not many. It is interesting
the number of people who aren't willing to give anything back
to a "community." They pop in to promote their books
every six months but don't partake in the actual discussions,
never offer to review anyone else, etc. The happy surprise is
that these folks are in the minority. Most of our members take
the concept of community to heart.
SIC: Tell us more about the short story anthology you plan to take to Bouchercon.
DL : Down These Wicked Streets, the PI anthology, is a collaboration
between Wicked Company and The Thrilling Detective Web Site.
It was actually Kevin Burton Smith's idea. (Everyone else has
the ideas, I just trot along behind, pouring the coffee and fluffing
the pillows.) We've got seven original stories written by members
of Wicked Company -- many (myself included) who had never written
a PI story before. It was an excellent test of writing discipline
and turned out to be a lot of fun.
SIC: As an editor, what are the main weaknesses you see in material submitted to iUniverse and Xlibris?
DL
: Most of it desperately needs an editor. I think the freelance editor business should be booming. Besides all the proofreading errors (increasingly commonplace in traditional publishing as well), you've got writers who don't understand about pacing, structure, characterization, theme (my old favorite) and dialogue. They don't know the basics.
They love writing! And they recognize that
much of what is published through traditional venues is mediocre,
but what they don't recognize is that while those books are flawed,
they are not flawed as desperately as is much of what is self-published.
And they struggle against facing the fact that it doesn't matter
if someone else's unworthy book is on a bestseller list, THEY
have to follow the rules. They have to write BETTER than the
traditionally published author because they've already got two
strikes against them.
SIC: Gaze
into your crystal ball. What will you be doing ten years from
now?
DL
: When I grow up I wanna be a geisha and write Haiku
murder mysteries. I've always wanted long, raven black hair...
SIC: Many
thanks, DL, and good luck with your books and other endeavors.
DL : Thanks, Pat. I enjoyed it!
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